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fba Pearson Longman Moderator 160 posts since
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03-Apr-2009 11:45

Grumpy teenagers

Does anybody have any ideas of how to deal with classes full of grumpy teenagers?

Any thoughts most appreciated.

  • Alf Newbie 1 posts since
    31-Mar-2009
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    1. 03-Apr-2009 14:06 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    That is a bit challenging, however lwt me offer you a couple of tips that have worked out for me, one of the things about teens is that they would not normally follow a behavior patttern, therefore it is best to seek the source of their grumpniness, what is bothering them, take some of your time to listen to them, I know we don ont often have the time to do this but it works, something else you could do is to have them build up a list of the things they most enjoyand a list of things they hate or "dislike" use this to plan your activites, also vary the sort of activities that you normally conduct in classes and fnally, if it is possible change the usual setting of the class, take them to other places, in a few words change your class routine! I hope this can help you!

     

    alf

  • annarzeznik Newbie 4 posts since
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    2. 14-Apr-2009 09:49 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Much depends on the age really, but generally the prize system works great. You just have to decide on the prize and make it suitable for the age.

     

    With kids and younger teens I used angel/devil system: I designed a picture of an angel and of a devil and at the end of each lesson one of my students got an angel; I generally started with those, who behaved better, but the thing worked marvellously, when I managed to give an angel to a student, who almost always misbehaved (he had one better day ); I had no problems with him later on. He was so happy that he got a reward and that he actually CAN get one. I used the devil only when it was absolutely necessary and after two previous warnings. You just have to remember who got the angel, so that everyone in the class gets one sooner or later.

     

    With older teens the reward has to be more "adult". I used their favourite songs often. You create a "wishlist" with songs at the beginning of the course (each student can submit one title) and, similarly as with the angels, at the end of the lesson you choose the winner, and start the next lesson with his/her favourite song.

     

    Just remeber that the rewards are connected with the behaviour, not the language performance.

     

    Hope that helps

  • patriziaschirosi Newbie 6 posts since
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    3. 17-Apr-2009 19:55 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    I started my carreer in a school where all students were grumpy teenagers. I think that it was very important to catch their attention and to make them perceive that all of them are equallly important for you. What they liked is to be considered "people". So I decided to start from what they liked (I still do, my students are very cooperative and really involved). Motivation is really important and help students to be part of their learning: self esteem and self evaluation are also important.

  • Ocean Newbie 6 posts since
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    4. 24-Apr-2009 06:33 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Why not trying to give them a certain amount of involvement in teaching.

    I remember the last time I taught a group of teenagers who did not seem to be willing to be in my class I gave them the opportunity to identify what they wanted to learn in English and how they wanted to learn it. I even remember assigning them the responsibility to design the tests to assess achievement and you cannot imagine how much I learnt about their ideas and perception about language learning!

    Was it because they had the chance to discover their own motives to learn and react to their own risks, goals and expectations or was it just a crazy idea that worked once?

    I should have done some research!

  • patriziaschirosi Newbie 6 posts since
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    5. 24-Apr-2009 15:00 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Giving responsability..... it makes me think that whenever students take part into their learning process things are better.

    Recently I've asked my students to prepare a  presentation in which they had to show their mates the ongoing of a process (we were studying the passive voice). In pairs they did their project in the computer lab and presented it to their schoolfellow in English in the vido lab.They were responsible for the presentation: it was a success.

  • Marita Newbie 4 posts since
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    6. 27-Apr-2009 02:20 (in response to fba)
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    I ask them to keep a diary. The first time they have to write in their diaries, I write two or three questions on the board to guide them in their writing : 'How did you feel in this class?' 'What difficulties did you encounter?', etc. It is not easy at the beginning because as soon as they hear the word 'write' they don't like it, but  little by little they start writing more and more and normally about how they feel as teenagers. I always write a comment in response to what they write or I give some advice if they ask for it. The result is a cooperative class and a very nice atmosphere! They realise that I'm not miles away from them and that helps a lot! It's such a rewarding  experience to see them eager to read my comments...

  • ElenaBaldi Newbie 2 posts since
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    8. 26-May-2009 17:41 (in response to Alf)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    I teach high school students, which means 14 to 19 year-old ones. I have always found the years which go from 15 to 17 the nastiest time ever. Something I experienced both as a mother and teacher.

    Well, when I started out in this job I had no idea whatsoever how to deal with the grumpy kids in tenth/eleventh grade. When the situation got out of control, which at the beginning of my career happened quite often, I shouted at them, wrote reports down into the rollbook, called the principal, summoned their parents, gave them extra tests and what not. However, I ended up absolutely worn out, stressed and feeling I had chosen the wrong profession. It took time to overcome the anger I felt which such guys. Gosh! It did take years. Now ,at 47, I think I have found a good way with them. I'll give you an example. There's this boy in one of my classes, Federico, who tried to drive me crazy by misbehaving in all possible ways. Well, since I knew that he wants to be a lawyer, I gave his class articles on juvenile crime, which led to a discussion work and a forum where everyone had a chance to speak. Then I came across an old book of the Peanuts called The Legal Beagle, which I gave him. Well, I got him and now he's polite and even kind to me.

  • patriziaschirosi Newbie 6 posts since
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    9. 26-May-2009 19:55 (in response to ElenaBaldi)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Dear Elena,

    no doubt on your success!!!!

    You've used a strategy which takes in account students' interest and emotional involvement. I think a good teacher, as you are, has a lot of secrets in his/her magic trunk. This does not mean that you have in your hand the "secret recipe", but that  professional competence is high.

    I like reading what other colleagues have done in their classes and I really appreciate the idea of sharing (It is strictly connected to my personal teaching style of chosing Humanistic Education and its "caring and sharing" pedagody).

    Thanks for your contribution.

    Hugs

    Patrizia

  • sisolica Newbie 4 posts since
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    10. 27-May-2009 00:24 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Hi there,

    I do sympathise as it is a very tough age and sometimes they don't even know why they are grumpy!! However,it is an age where the kids are insecure, don't believe they can do it or why they should even learn another language when they'd rather be playing football or video games!

    So motivation is essential,involvement from them,use technology whenever possible(blogs etc for movie/cd reviews) and encourage movement in class rather than insist that they sit through the class.Centres can also be fun:1 for questions, another prepositions,discussion,reading activity-stds spend 10 mins in each centre then moves to the next.

    Good luck

    Sherina

  • Ceciliam Newbie 6 posts since
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    11. 13-Apr-2010 03:29 (in response to sisolica)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Something I've found useful is, as said above, to try to include them in the teaching activity. They vote the topic they'de like to develop from a list I give them, and another "new" one they'd like to go through. Each group within the class has a special activity to fullfil and share. These two things, the choosing and the sharing make them feel important, like they "own" the topic.

    Hope these ideas help.

    Another tip from years teaching, don't expect too much, teenagers have been, are and will be difficult!

    Cecilia

  • Fiorella Biancalana Newbie 1 posts since
    14-Apr-2010
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    12. 14-Apr-2010 10:42 (in response to Ceciliam)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    After 35 years' teaching I agree with you that you must not expect anything from teenagers. Yet, if they start being succesful, they might (and I underline 'might') be likely to become involved, they might improve their skills and they might stop complaining. Never say never! :-)))

    Good luck and get going!

  • lola noriega Newbie 1 posts since
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    13. 14-Apr-2010 17:48 (in response to fba)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Hi

    you're in a difficult position, sometimes it helps talking to them in the sense of explaining that you're both obliged to achieve some goals and fulfill a programme but ask them in which way would they prefer to do it;  what kind of acttivities do they prefer, so that you involove them, they can express what they feel and that can help  to low their anger. On the other hand , once they have participated to decide the way of working they will have to adjust to it as it was their decision.

  • Nick Dawson Pearson Longman 182 posts since
    12-May-2009
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    14. 14-Apr-2010 18:48 (in response to lola noriega)
    Re: Grumpy teenagers

    Yes, I remember a German friend said to me, "Puberty is a difficult time for parents and teachers!"

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