Thanks Susan for some very practical ideas. I particularly like your idea of a 'free-choice' time within the lessons. Your analysis of the non-participating student is very interesting and your suggestion that the students should be given an administrative role is great. So often, the non-participating student has very low self-esteem so giving them a 'high-status' role is very helpful.
I remember, in my early days of teaching in primary school, students being very eager to win the priviledge of being allowed to clean the blackboard!
thanks for your helpful advices. but you the point is how to motivate them. you know the situation in our country.earning ,oney and finding a job is one of the most concerns of this generation and unfortunately nobody care how skillful you are in language.
All resources, advantages and strategies for this point into classroom resumes in only one word:
MOTIVATION... We must engage our student to topics
Hello Mehdi,
if in your country young people want to start work without English, it seems they cannot see the importance of communicating with others who don't speak their language. You can, of course explain them why it is good but it is up to them to decide (and they'll come back in a couple of years' time telling you you were right, after all).
My concern is that they (well, some of my students, sometimes a whole group) do want to be able to use English but are not willing do do much for it. As if a skill like that can come by itself. Motivated? Yes, they get involved in the activites, have a great time in class but there is very slow proress because back at home they do not open their books or vocab notes.
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I have no answer to that.
Rita
It is correct Yilder , i just want to add another word which is a challenging part of the Teacher , INSPIRATION , Teacher must have the ability to inspire students to learn , Hold on , this is not easy , Teacher must have PASSION as well .
Thanks everyone for comments , I am learning of all of you .Mendy , Nicolas , Rita .
My better wishes on this journey .
Greetings from El Salvador , Central America .
Rita makes a really interesting comment, just thinking about this in the context of my own learning experience of another language. It's not that I am not motivated, when I am in class I fully engage and I leave with the best intentions to practise and do extra things to help keep learning. But it's hard to integrate my learning with my normal day to day routine and busy life. I'm not lazy (I don't think so anyway!), but it doesn't always stay top of my priorities. It's when I am reminded of my end goals of why I am learning that I usefully give my myself a good kick to get going again!
Emma
Just a quick reply to Emma...
Yes, I know. My adult students get ready for fun when I arrive at the office, strech their legs, sit back and forget about work. I know they have no time for extra practice after work.
But this time I was refering to my secondary school students. Do I really sound demanding if I expect them to do their share of the language acquisition process? Most of them have no other obligations but their studies, which means they have free afternoons and evenings for sport, fun and, well, studies.
I think the teacher is responsible for that because if the students are lazy or let's say passive, this is because they lack motivation, but if you show then the greatest goals scored by a famous football player, they will pay attention. Could you tell me why?
We have to know the needs of our students because they are our clients and we have to satisfy their needs.
As a teacher, we must try to enforce active learning. There is a whole list of ativities for engaging unintrested students.
Also, try taking a feedback from them - how they like the class? Any changes? What can be introduced (which they like) to make teh class more interesting? try changing the style of teaching, go from passive learning to active learning.
hello Mehdi....thanks for sharing this kind of problem that most of us face during the lesson time, the first thing that i'm going to do with this kind of students is getting close with them,try to know what they want at class,what activity that they sure want to enjoy what topic that they love. if this way is fail then surely i'll tell some interesting experiences especially with smthing that becomes headlines recently...students love hearing a new story or experiences (as i've experienced in most of my class) but remember that when we start telling some stories to gain their attention first in class,make sure that our story is in line with the lesson's topic so students can give their attention to the lesson without even they realize it.
Ika
thank you Ika and other freinds. you know during these times I've been thinking about all your ideas and your great advice and i tried to make use of some. for example i tried to be closer to my students, ask them to share their problems with me even those which are not concerned with english study. and you know what? it realy works!.now i'm a friend of them , not only their teacher! and they respond to most of my strategies in teaching. now they trust me and it's easier for me to conect with them. some times i tell some jokes in the class. some times tell some fun english stories or some english riddles and they really like it specially at the end of the class they eagerly ask me to tell them new stories. just like small children. is n't that great?
Counselling sessions with students are for listening, not just for giving advice. As you have discovered, when students understand that you care, they also begin to care. Counselling sessions take time but not all students need them. If we can begin to understand why students are lazy, we can help them to change their attitude and behaviour.
When you get close to your students, you can discover that they are interesting and pleasant people, not just pupils who must be trained.
Enjoy your teaching,
Nick
Just a note to everyone to say thank you for the great thread.
Yes, it's so important not to simply think of these students as 'lazy'. It's much better to think about how you can go to them rather than how they can change. Then you might just meet in the middle.
Better this than drawing up the battle lines and going to war against them.


